blog post about the recent lang-team meetings

Author: nikomatsakis

posts/inside-rust/2020-07-06-lang-team-design-meeting-update.md

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+layout: post
+title: "Lang team design meeting update"
+author: Niko Matsakis
+description: "Summary of some of the recent lang team design meetings"
+team: the lang team <https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/lang>
+---
+
+Hello! Did you know that the [lang team] now has regular design
+meetings? We use these meetings to dig deeper into the output of
+active project groups. After the meeting, we typically post a
+recording to YouTube as well as some [minutes into the lang-team
+repository][min]. I wanted to write a quick update listing out some of
+the meetings we've had recently as well as some of our upcoming
+meetings.
+
+[lang team]: https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/lang
+[min]: https://lang-team.rust-lang.org/minutes.html
+
+### Recent lang-team design meetings
+
+We recently held two lang-team design meetings:
+
+* The **const evaluation project group** discussed the overall state
+  of const evaluation and a ["skill tree"] that they've been
+  developing to show **what some of the next steps are** and how they
+  relate to one another.  We also discussed **what "unsafe" might mean
+  in a const evaluation context** and in particular [Ralf's proposal to
+  consider "things that may not be const-evaluable" as "unsafe" in a
+  const fn][ralfj].
+  * [Minutes][m1], [recording][r1]
+* Safe transmute project group: We discussed the approaches explored
+  by the safe transmute group, and in particular did a bit of a deep
+  dive into the [exciting `typic` crate][typic] being developed by
+  [jswrenn]. We looked at what it might make sense to pursue as an
+  immediate RFC and what ought to stay in the realm of library experimentation
+  for the time being.
+  * [Minutes][m2], [recording][r2]
+  
+[m1]: https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/blob/master/design-meeting-minutes/2020-06-24-const-eval-unsafe-and-skill-tree.md
+[r1]: https://youtu.be/b3p2vX8wZ_c
+[ralfj]: https://www.ralfj.de/blog/2018/07/19/const.html
+["skill tree"]: https://github.com/nikomatsakis/skill-tree#what-is-a-skill-tree
+[typic]: https://github.com/jswrenn/typic
+[jswrenn]: https://github.com/jswrenn
+
+### How lang-team design meeting proposals work
+
+Every proposed meeting begins with an issue on the lang-team
+repository. If you're curious, you can take a look at the [open issues
+with the `meeting proposal` label][issues] to get an idea of what
+meetings are being considered; if a meeting has been scheduled, it
+will also be tagged with `meeting scheduled` and have some comments as
+to the current date.
+
+[issues]: https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/issues?q=label%3Ameeting-proposal
+
+We currently schedule meetings in a rather ad-hoc fashion, basically
+hammering it out over Zulip. I'd probably like to move us to a more
+"regularly scheduled" scheduling meeting, like the compiler team, but
+we haven't adopted such a scheme yet.
+
+Anyone can propose a design meeting, though they are meant to be
+proposed mostly in conjunction with active project groups or other
+ongoing discussions, and not just out of the blue. Moreover, anyone is
+welcome to listen in on a design meeting, though you should be aware
+that the meeting is typically being recorded. Zoom links are available
+upon request.
+
+### Upcoming lang-team meeting proposals
+
+We currently have two pending lang-team meeting proposals:
+
+* A proposal to discuss the path to lang-team membership ([rust-lang/lang-team#32]).
+* A proposal to discuss enforcing bounds on type aliases and how we
+  might phase that in ([rust-lang/lang-team#25]).
+  
+We expect to be scheduling those soon, and we'll update the issues
+with dates when they are available.
+
+[rust-lang/lang-team#32]: https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/issues/32
+[rust-lang/lang-team#25]: https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/issues/25