added mentoring and speaker mentoring sections #10345

lsmith77 · 2018-09-15T09:19:23Z

I decided to have separate sections for code/doc mentoring and speaker mentoring mostly because I wanted speaker mentoring to show up in the index.

greg0ire · 2018-09-15T09:43:39Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+How to get started
+------------------
+
+Given a first talk at a conference can seem quite intimidating but we


greg0ire · 2018-09-15T09:44:53Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+Given a first talk at a conference can seem quite intimidating but we
+want to make sure that as many people as possible are empowered to take
+this path if they are motivated. Therefore we have collected a few
+resources with advice. More importantly we connect experienced speakers


Therefore we have collected a few resources with advice

This sentence sounds a bit weird… to me. Maybe check with a native english speaker?

greg0ire · 2018-09-15T09:45:00Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+
+.. tip::
+
+    A good first step might be given a talk at a local user group to a


greg0ire · 2018-09-15T09:46:38Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+    a talk at conference in your mother tongue.
+
+The best way to find people that can review your talk idea or slides is
+the `speaker mentoring channel`_ on Symfony slack. There are many


the "Symfony Devs" Slack workspace

greg0ire · 2018-09-15T09:47:28Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+motivated to help anyone get started on the path towards becoming a
+public speaker. They can even do practice runs via video chat!
+Furthermore, they can also be an ally when it comes to the day of
+given the talk at a conference!


giving… I'm starting to see a pattern here 😅

greg0ire · 2018-09-15T09:48:18Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+Furthermore, they can also be an ally when it comes to the day of
+given the talk at a conference!
+
+Likely the premier resource with advice on `public speaking`_ is a


"the premier resource"? Is that a thing? Honest question.

lsmith77 · 2018-09-15T10:04:47Z

@greg0ire thx for the feedback .. hope I managed to address all of your concerns

lsmith77 · 2018-09-15T10:05:13Z

any thing else worth mentioning?

maybe the hackathons at the symfonyconf or php/symfony user groups

greg0ire

Looks great!

sstok · 2018-09-16T16:45:23Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+and evolve the code, design patterns and architecture provided within
+the Symfony community. As such we specifically welcome not only sharing
+from long time contributors, but also from new users as they will come
+across entirely different challenges with a totally fresh new look and


across with entirely different challenges, and with a

sstok · 2018-09-16T16:46:16Z

contributing/community/mentoring.rst

+Reading the :doc:`contributing </contributing/index>` is already a great way
+to get started on becoming a Symfony contributor. However, sometimes
+it might still seem overwhelming and for this purpose we created a
+dedicated slack channel called `contribs`_ to connect new contributors


Slack (with an uppercase)

Can/should we link Slack Channel to the place where someone can sign up for the Slack? In case this is their first time wanting to do that?

sstok · 2018-09-16T16:48:40Z

contributing/community/mentoring.rst

+to get started on becoming a Symfony contributor. However, sometimes
+it might still seem overwhelming and for this purpose we created a
+dedicated slack channel called `contribs`_ to connect new contributors
+to long time contributors that can help get started and give some one


someone (one word), and the whole sentence seems a bit strange.

started and give someone advice on the entire process.

@sstok It's "give some [one on one advice]" in this sentence. Though I think it should be "one-on-one" in that case (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/one-on-one).

long-time contributors. This is a great way to get one-on-one advice on the entire process.
These long-time contributors do really want to help new contributors - so feel free to ask anything!

sstok · 2018-09-16T16:49:29Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+How to get started
+------------------
+
+Giving a first talk at a conference can seem quite intimidating but we


intimidating, but

How about:

intimidating. But don't worry! At one time, every speaker went through this same process. And so,
we want to make sure...

sstok · 2018-09-16T16:51:47Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+
+    A good first step might be giving a talk at a local user group to a
+    smaller crowd that one knows more intimately. As a next step give
+    a talk at conference in your mother tongue.


As a next step give a talk at a conference in your mother tongue.

These two sentences aren't constructed in the same way. I would change the second one to "A next step could be giving a talk at a conference...".

Taking into account the comment of @weaverryan on the previous sentence, this sentence would become "A next step could be to give a talk at a conference...".

sstok · 2018-09-16T16:54:15Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+Furthermore, they can also be an ally when it comes to the day of
+giving the talk at a conference!
+
+A great resource with advice on everything related to`public speaking`_


As an FYI, this sentence is of a passive voice, maybe it could be rewritten into an active voice. But I myself am no star in grammar and copyrighting 😅

To me, the passive voice gives this part a bit of a footnote feeling. It sounds good as is: not something you should do, but some more information in case you're interested.

TimoBakx

Good text, added some minor improvements.

TimoBakx · 2018-09-17T07:58:24Z

contributing/community/mentoring.rst

+to get started on becoming a Symfony contributor. However, sometimes
+it might still seem overwhelming and for this purpose we created a
+dedicated slack channel called `contribs`_ to connect new contributors
+to long time contributors that can help get started and give some one


@sstok It's "give some [one on one advice]" in this sentence. Though I think it should be "one-on-one" in that case (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/one-on-one).

TimoBakx · 2018-09-17T08:01:37Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+Giving a first talk at a conference can seem quite intimidating but we
+want to make sure that as many people as possible are empowered to take
+this path if they are motivated. We have collected a few resources with
+advice to get started. More importantly we connect experienced speakers


"... with advice on how to get started" sounds a bit better to me.

"More importantly, we..."

More importantly, we can connect

TimoBakx · 2018-09-17T08:04:09Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+want to make sure that as many people as possible are empowered to take
+this path if they are motivated. We have collected a few resources with
+advice to get started. More importantly we connect experienced speakers
+with people just taking their first steps in this area:


"...with people who are just taking..." or "...with people that are just taking..."
I'm not sure which is better, though "who" seems more personal.

First one :)

TimoBakx · 2018-09-17T08:05:51Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+
+    A good first step might be giving a talk at a local user group to a
+    smaller crowd that one knows more intimately. As a next step give
+    a talk at conference in your mother tongue.


These two sentences aren't constructed in the same way. I would change the second one to "A next step could be giving a talk at a conference...".

TimoBakx · 2018-09-17T08:07:24Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+    a talk at conference in your mother tongue.
+
+The best way to find people that can review your talk idea or slides is
+the `speaker mentoring channel`_ on Symfony Devs slack. There are many


I would use "#speaker-mentoring channel" here. And Slack with a capital.

TimoBakx · 2018-09-17T08:08:15Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+The best way to find people that can review your talk idea or slides is
+the `speaker mentoring channel`_ on Symfony Devs slack. There are many
+seasoned speakers with knowledge in various parts of Symfony that are
+motivated to help anyone get started on the path towards becoming a


"...to help someone getting started on..." or "...to help someone to get started on..."

How about this?

to help you get started on your path

TimoBakx · 2018-09-17T08:09:57Z

contributing/community/mentoring.rst

+Reading the :doc:`contributing </contributing/index>` is already a great way
+to get started on becoming a Symfony contributor. However, sometimes
+it might still seem overwhelming and for this purpose we created a
+dedicated slack channel called `contribs`_ to connect new contributors


Maybe use #contribs instead of contribs?

weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:36:21Z

contributing/community/mentoring.rst

+
+Reading the :doc:`contributing </contributing/index>` is already a great way
+to get started on becoming a Symfony contributor. However, sometimes
+it might still seem overwhelming and for this purpose we created a


overwhelming - contributing can be complex! For this reason, we created...

weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:37:06Z

contributing/community/mentoring.rst

+Reading the :doc:`contributing </contributing/index>` is already a great way
+to get started on becoming a Symfony contributor. However, sometimes
+it might still seem overwhelming and for this purpose we created a
+dedicated slack channel called `contribs`_ to connect new contributors


Can/should we link Slack Channel to the place where someone can sign up for the Slack? In case this is their first time wanting to do that?

weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:38:54Z

contributing/community/mentoring.rst

+to get started on becoming a Symfony contributor. However, sometimes
+it might still seem overwhelming and for this purpose we created a
+dedicated slack channel called `contribs`_ to connect new contributors
+to long time contributors that can help get started and give some one


long-time contributors. This is a great way to get one-on-one advice on the entire process.
These long-time contributors do really want to help new contributors - so feel free to ask anything!

weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:39:14Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

@@ -0,0 +1,43 @@
+Speaker mentoring
+=================


weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:39:34Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+=================
+
+The Symfony community benefits greatly from as many people as possible
+sharing their knowledge and experience with others. Every different


greatly when as many people as possible share their...

weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:42:48Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+How to get started
+------------------
+
+Giving a first talk at a conference can seem quite intimidating but we


How about:

intimidating. But don't worry! At one time, every speaker went through this same process. And so,
we want to make sure...

weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:43:07Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+Giving a first talk at a conference can seem quite intimidating but we
+want to make sure that as many people as possible are empowered to take
+this path if they are motivated. We have collected a few resources with
+advice to get started. More importantly we connect experienced speakers


More importantly, we can connect

weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:43:17Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+want to make sure that as many people as possible are empowered to take
+this path if they are motivated. We have collected a few resources with
+advice to get started. More importantly we connect experienced speakers
+with people just taking their first steps in this area:


First one :)

weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:43:33Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+
+.. tip::
+
+    A good first step might be giving a talk at a local user group to a


might be to give a talk...

weaverryan · 2018-09-18T14:46:45Z

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

+The best way to find people that can review your talk idea or slides is
+the `speaker mentoring channel`_ on Symfony Devs slack. There are many
+seasoned speakers with knowledge in various parts of Symfony that are
+motivated to help anyone get started on the path towards becoming a


How about this?

to help you get started on your path

lsmith77 · 2018-09-19T16:53:03Z

thank you all for your feedback .. I hopefully correctly integrated it all.

lsmith77 · 2018-09-20T09:02:55Z

removed the WIP label .. @weaverryan can you check once more?

contributing/community/speaker-mentoring.rst

lsmith77 · 2018-09-27T08:04:13Z

@javiereguiluz thx for your feedback .. hopefully all good now

This PR was submitted for the master branch but it was merged into the 2.8 branch instead (closes #10345). Discussion ---------- added mentoring and speaker mentoring sections I decided to have separate sections for code/doc mentoring and speaker mentoring mostly because I wanted `speaker mentoring` to show up in the index. Commits ------- 26813d5 added mentoring and speaker mentoring sections

javiereguiluz · 2018-09-27T08:54:09Z

@lsmith77 thanks for contributing these articles! They are merged now 🎉

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